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12/07/2012
ricordo che avevo notato anch'io Levi dire che sagpneveno tutto buttando acqua. Volevo pero' capire meglio cosa intendeva, cioe' se effettivamente per spegnere/regolare il reattore basta raffreddarlo, e se questo viene fatto semplicemente aumentando il flusso di acqua che gia' sta scorrendo nell'impianto di raffreddamento, oppure cos'altro. Mi incuriosisce capire se e' possibile modulare la potenza di erogazione del reattore in qualche modo che non sia il semplice raffreddamento dello stesso, ma mi sembra di intuire che la reazione, una volta innescata scaldando i reagenti, possa essere gestita solo in modo indiretto, cioe' gettando piu' acqua per raffreddarlo fino a spegnerlo, eventualmente.Massimo - Bologna
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